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Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 16:48:00 -
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If "John" don't leave EVE, keep account alive one year or more or less after 14 days ban, but not really play, then give all isk to E-Uni, Will CCP confiscate again? |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:07:00 -
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Why don't the 14 days ban happen with removal of ISK at the same time ? |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:15:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Finde learth wrote:Why don't the 14 days ban appear with removal of ISK ? They do. It didn't apply in this case. This was explained in my first post.
CCP Sreegs wrote: our logs show that it was discussed and approved prior to either them receiving the isk or petitioning.
i don't understand what "it" means. |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:02:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Finde learth wrote:Why don't the 14 days ban appear with removal of ISK ? They do. It didn't apply in this case. This was explained in my first post.
You mention it's an error. But if John don't sell all assets, will CCP still confiscate all his assets and ISK just because he got 14 days ban? |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:05:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:There are a number of things wrong with the assertions being made in other forums, which is a topic I'm sure the author of these posts is familiar with because we discussed them prior to his rather selective reporting of the incident. Here's the facts as we need be concerned from an eve perspective:
1) John was botting. That is not even close to in dispute. 2) We committed an error in not removing the isk before it got to EVE-U. However we did rectify this problem and our logs show that it was discussed and approved prior to either them receiving the isk or petitioning. We apologized to EVE-U however the petition was escalated as high as it could be and the decision remained. We cannot typically share this information with them as it's really none of their business.
Can you explain why remove all ISK because of a 14 days ban?
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Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:17:00 -
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Dan Leviathan wrote:Finde learth wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:There are a number of things wrong with the assertions being made in other forums, which is a topic I'm sure the author of these posts is familiar with because we discussed them prior to his rather selective reporting of the incident. Here's the facts as we need be concerned from an eve perspective:
1) John was botting. That is not even close to in dispute. 2) We committed an error in not removing the isk before it got to EVE-U. However we did rectify this problem and our logs show that it was discussed and approved prior to either them receiving the isk or petitioning. We apologized to EVE-U however the petition was escalated as high as it could be and the decision remained. We cannot typically share this information with them as it's really none of their business.
Can you explain why remove all ISK because of a 14 days ban? Can you explain how you are possibly this ignorant? You think CCP can remove all your assets and ISK for a 14 days ban after 21 days? |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:21:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:Finde learth wrote:You think CCP can remove all your assets and ISK for a 14 days ban after 21 days? ISK confirmed to have been obtained through botting, that was tied up in goods that were then liquidated prior to self-immolation? Yes.
CCP never said it. CCP just confirmed "John" used bot. |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:26:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Finde learth wrote:Dan Leviathan wrote:Finde learth wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:There are a number of things wrong with the assertions being made in other forums, which is a topic I'm sure the author of these posts is familiar with because we discussed them prior to his rather selective reporting of the incident. Here's the facts as we need be concerned from an eve perspective:
1) John was botting. That is not even close to in dispute. 2) We committed an error in not removing the isk before it got to EVE-U. However we did rectify this problem and our logs show that it was discussed and approved prior to either them receiving the isk or petitioning. We apologized to EVE-U however the petition was escalated as high as it could be and the decision remained. We cannot typically share this information with them as it's really none of their business.
Can you explain why remove all ISK because of a 14 days ban? Can you explain how you are possibly this ignorant? You think CCP can remove all your assets and ISK for a 14 days ban after 21 days? Yes, they can. They even can disallow you access to their game for NO reason at all. Start reading the EULA. Their game. Their server. Their rules. You don't like them? Go somewhere else. It's not rocket science. It's all in the EULA, you agreed with. Multiple times. So the topic is right |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:32:00 -
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Dante Uisen wrote:Finde learth wrote:So the topic is right Are you trying hard to be this stupid, or does it come naturally? Won't CCL delete your post like this? |

Finde learth
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:16:00 -
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Violet Giraffe wrote:ISBoxer is allowed? Is that confirmed by CCP? Sorry for offtopic. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1291641&page=10#274 |
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Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:14:00 -
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Dante Uisen wrote:Karbowiak wrote:@Dante Uisen
Pretty sure it will, you can modify orders with about 2-3 seconds between each, and if you automate it to the point where the IGB handles putting most of the workload into computing form, and just has you pasting info into fields and hitting ok + next.
Then it's entirely possible to get about 30 orders a minute. Even if you have some way of writing directly to the cut/paste clipboard buffer, and all you need to do is edit the order and paste in the value, you would still not be able to do it with 2 second intervals. You need to manually find the order and open the window to modify the order, the process can probably be very optimized but not to the point where you can modify order in 2 seconds. Can orders be sorted? if they can,then can IGB data be sorted ? if all they can, is it still impossible modify orders in 2 seconds? |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:43:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote: The issue is that the manner in which CCP Security deals with these issues, the stated lack of reporting (such as the CSM has with EVE Central Bank) combined with the lack of an appeals process (Judge, Jury and Executioner) is a recipe for distrust.
I want to redirect your attention to this post by CCP Sreegs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2603295#post2603295Specifically, this part: CCP Sreegs wrote: Will we see a thread next that Hilmar has no oversight? At what level is oversight acceptable? A director? A VP? At what level is complete fabrication designed specifically to cause my team and my company's reputation harm acceptable?
That's you. You deliberately and willfully crossed the line and are deliberately attempting to harm CCP. -Liang
CCP keep lying "One Universe // One War". |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:01:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Finde learth wrote:CCP keep lying "One Universe // One War". Would you please expound upon this because this is like the 5th time you've said the same cryptic ****. -Liang
You never hear Serenity ? |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:09:00 -
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A 30m sp character, means play at least 14 month. CCP though he use market bot from beginning so remove all his "illegal" 300B ISK after 21 days because of a 14 days ban. |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:36:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Finde learth wrote:A 30m sp character, means play at least 14 month. CCP though he use market bot from beginning so remove all his "illegal" 300B ISK because of a 14 days ban. Yes. What's the problem here? -Liang
CCP have changed ban process one year ago. If they detect bot daily, ban it daily. And the ban of bot was the first step of their 3-strike policy.
So 14 days ban should be a warn.
It should not be removal of all assets and ISK after you play over one year or more, especially when the removal didn't happen with ban. Actually they should happen at same time. |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:48:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Finde learth wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Finde learth wrote:A 30m sp character, means play at least 14 month. CCP though he use market bot from beginning so remove all his "illegal" 300B ISK because of a 14 days ban. Yes. What's the problem here? -Liang CCP have changed ban process one year ago. If they detect bot daily, ban it daily. And the ban of bot was the first step of their 3-strike policy. So 14 days ban should be a warn. It should not be removal of all assets and ISK after you play over one year or more, especially when the removal didn't happen with ban. Actually they should happen at same time. ill-gained isk is removed. somebody forgot about removing the isk, and that's pretty much the only thing CCP is at fault here. they are humans after all.
Do you know CCP remove ISK base on the time using BOT? They didn't remove all your asset and ISK just because you are using bot. But they did it in this case when they forgot to remove ISK and discussed it over 3 weeks. |

Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:07:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Aren Madigan wrote: Honestly? I can see some of the difficulty, yeah, which is why I'm not angry at CCP... yet. But I would say it'd do a lot of damage to CCP's position if someone made a video on how this was done. If "John" was legit, wish he would have stuck around to do that at least. If not? Good riddance.
John was botting. Really. I mean it. This is a provable thing, and CCP only bans on 150% proof. -Liang
Did CCP ban Psyco Groupie on 150% proof? You should know you are lying like CCP. |
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